sadcfan, you are not a coward!, you are doing the best you can in your circumstances, The Lord knows that and that is what counts.
Dave Brown
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Mill Hill Disfellowshippings
by BorgHater ina few months ago there was a thread about a couple of elders at the mill hill bethel being disfellowshipped because they disagreed with some wt doctrine (i can't recall exactly what it was) and that several other betheliteswere under 'investigation'.
i haven't heard anything since, does anyone know anything more about this?.
borghater xx.
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Mill Hill Disfellowshippings
by BorgHater ina few months ago there was a thread about a couple of elders at the mill hill bethel being disfellowshipped because they disagreed with some wt doctrine (i can't recall exactly what it was) and that several other betheliteswere under 'investigation'.
i haven't heard anything since, does anyone know anything more about this?.
borghater xx.
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Dave Brown
I didn't mean to honestly!, I do however really believe that people that leave the WT easily become isolated when there is no need to be, there are thousands of people in the same boat, and I include all the Cult survivors in that not just JW's, we need to get ourselves in contact with each other and maintain that to fully recover from the trauma of the thing.
Anyway where are you paulapollos?
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Mill Hill Disfellowshippings
by BorgHater ina few months ago there was a thread about a couple of elders at the mill hill bethel being disfellowshipped because they disagreed with some wt doctrine (i can't recall exactly what it was) and that several other betheliteswere under 'investigation'.
i haven't heard anything since, does anyone know anything more about this?.
borghater xx.
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Anyway getting back to the subject how are the Mill Hill people doing?,
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Mill Hill Disfellowshippings
by BorgHater ina few months ago there was a thread about a couple of elders at the mill hill bethel being disfellowshipped because they disagreed with some wt doctrine (i can't recall exactly what it was) and that several other betheliteswere under 'investigation'.
i haven't heard anything since, does anyone know anything more about this?.
borghater xx.
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Hi Quillsky,
again thanks for your support, I can't express how greatly appreciated it is by all of us. I don't think Peter posts on here, but you are absolutely right in your observations regarding our personalities, and of course Doug is also a brilliant supportive Brother not just a presenter. And also it does show that those still trapped are not robots.
I am relieved that having spent 18 years connected to the Borg collective I still have something left to offer. I really feel weird in that those 18 years seem somewhat imaginary now, I feel 35 again not 53,
Dave.
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Mill Hill Disfellowshippings
by BorgHater ina few months ago there was a thread about a couple of elders at the mill hill bethel being disfellowshipped because they disagreed with some wt doctrine (i can't recall exactly what it was) and that several other betheliteswere under 'investigation'.
i haven't heard anything since, does anyone know anything more about this?.
borghater xx.
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Dave Brown
Crikey well done, I wouldn't have a clue as to how you did that, I think that series of 12 sections gives a load of info on the whole effort. I got more hair on the next one, trouble is it's coming out of my ears!!.
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Mill Hill Disfellowshippings
by BorgHater ina few months ago there was a thread about a couple of elders at the mill hill bethel being disfellowshipped because they disagreed with some wt doctrine (i can't recall exactly what it was) and that several other betheliteswere under 'investigation'.
i haven't heard anything since, does anyone know anything more about this?.
borghater xx.
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Dave Brown
I don't think so however, Genesis repeat the programme at 1pm this Sunday. The other source is through the Revelation TV Website on the simply the truth page.
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Mill Hill Disfellowshippings
by BorgHater ina few months ago there was a thread about a couple of elders at the mill hill bethel being disfellowshipped because they disagreed with some wt doctrine (i can't recall exactly what it was) and that several other betheliteswere under 'investigation'.
i haven't heard anything since, does anyone know anything more about this?.
borghater xx.
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Dave Brown
Thanks, I appreciate your feedback, and support,
Dave.
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Mill Hill Disfellowshippings
by BorgHater ina few months ago there was a thread about a couple of elders at the mill hill bethel being disfellowshipped because they disagreed with some wt doctrine (i can't recall exactly what it was) and that several other betheliteswere under 'investigation'.
i haven't heard anything since, does anyone know anything more about this?.
borghater xx.
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Dave Brown
It could well be. The feedback we are getting is along the lines of people desperate to get out of there, but don't know where to go, and of course the programming that has convinced them that anything outside is Satanic. So there is a great deal of fear.
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Mill Hill Disfellowshippings
by BorgHater ina few months ago there was a thread about a couple of elders at the mill hill bethel being disfellowshipped because they disagreed with some wt doctrine (i can't recall exactly what it was) and that several other betheliteswere under 'investigation'.
i haven't heard anything since, does anyone know anything more about this?.
borghater xx.
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Dave Brown
Fantastic thanks, we had another massive response and it is going to take some time for us to get all the replies done, and support in place for those that need it.
We really feel that if we can show that there is a solid Brotherhood out here, then we could see many that want to leave come out quickly. The problem is providing support swiftly, providing people that actually understand the circumstances that these people have suffered under.
The Watchtower would be shocked to see what is happening, but in this age of easy communication they cant stop people in the same way they used to.
We could be approaching a tipping point, especially if a spiteful clampdown is enforced,
Blessings,
Dave.
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Mill Hill Disfellowshippings
by BorgHater ina few months ago there was a thread about a couple of elders at the mill hill bethel being disfellowshipped because they disagreed with some wt doctrine (i can't recall exactly what it was) and that several other betheliteswere under 'investigation'.
i haven't heard anything since, does anyone know anything more about this?.
borghater xx.
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Dave Brown
Who's condemning you Podobear?, you don't like me or my methods, but thats ok I expect differing views and things like that. You and I are still Brothers, and in Christ.
The Mill Hill thing does relate to the Bethel complex in that Brothers that work there are allocated to local congregations, the interesting thing is that paulapollos has come on and clarified the circumstances surrounding His and the other Brothers and Sisters removal. This situation is similar in many respects to the Ray Franz and Ed Dunlap scandal of the early eighties. You are right no GB members have gone this time, however, this situation again highlights the unrest at the Heart of the organisation, and right under the noses of the people that run the UK and France and some other areas I think.
Many ask why didn't the organisation collapse following 1975, thinking that nobody took any notice. It appears however that rather than collapsing with a massive crash, the measures the GB are taking are causing the thing to implode slowly. The tighter they grip the more they lose.
You are right to point out that the mess people are left in having experienced this outfit first hand is appalling, I know, I am picking up the peices all over the Country with people that are either too frightened to leave, have been kicked out, or have simply burned out and can't take any more.
I am very fortunate in that in my darkest hour I found support through Doug Harris, and the people at Reachout, and was able to bounce back to spiritual, mental and physical strength quickly.
The Watchtower lie to the Brothers and Sisters telling them that they will become useless shell's with no hope of any spirituality, I with the attributes I am blessed with stand and demand they take note that the lies they spout are exactly that. Not your cup of tea I know, but you have to understand we are individuals, and we will differ in the way we do things.
I am blessed in that I take nothing personally,
Dave.